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How will the big boys of IT perform?





R Ravi of Karvy Stock Broking believes that all IT


companies will have to pay higher taxes and the

effective


tax rate provisioning for the industry, which has
been


hovering between 10-12%, will definitely go to
around

16-


18%.





He adds that for Infosys, he is expecting revenues
to

grow


by 8.8% and its profit at reported level should be

around


7.1%. In case of Wipro, he expects their IT and
ITES


revenues to grow healthy, close to 7% and for TCS,
he

is


expecting the topline to grow by around 8.5%.





Excerpts from CNBC-TV18's exclusive interview with
R

Ravi


of Karvy Stock Broking:





Q: What are you expecting in terms of earnings from
the

big


three- Infosys, Wipro and TCS?





A: For Infosys, I am expecting revenues to grow by
8.8%

and


its profit at reported level should be around 7.1%.
In

case


of Wipro, their IT and ITES revenues will grow
healthy,


close to 7% and the bottomline growth will be flat.
For


TCS, I am expecting the topline to grow around
8.5%.

But


the profits will be growing only 4.8% precisely for
the


same reason of higher tax provisioning.





Q: The Patni Computer Systems announcement says
that

there


are some back taxes that they have to put into
their


accounts in the range of about USD 23-33 million.
Have

you


had a look at that statement that came from them?





A: I have not looked at it but when I built my tax


forecast, I am already providing a much higher tax


provisioning, though most companies have an
effective

tax


rate of around 14-16%. But for FY07, I am building

between


18-19%. So I do not think the shock should be a
severe

one


but nevertheless, I need to speak to the company
and

get


more clarity on that. It is definitely bad news for
the


company.





Q: When you said 18-17%, was it only for Patni or
are

you


building that in for the sector as a whole?





A: For the sector as a whole, even if one looks at
TCS;

for


the last quarter, it has made a provision of 9.6%.
The

pre-


tax, which they factored in for this quarter was
around


14%. So I am not trying to predict lower taxes, I
am


actually expecting taxes to go up. I am building
that

into


the model because anyway, we have to marry a
situation

of


higher taxes provisioning. So all the taxes will be

between


16-18% for most IT companies, the actuals can be
much

lower


or higher, but I am going with the assumption at
this

point


of time.





Q: Because of the tax revenue in the US, do you
think

some


other companies will also have to record a
liability in

the


quarter that just ended, that is the Q1?


TECH SECTOR


-Rupee depreciated against dollar by over 3.2%
since

April


2006


-1% depreciation in rupee to positively impact
EBITDA


margins by 40-60 bps


-80-85% of invoices of leading firms are in dollar


-Forex hedges to restrict the impact








A: I need to look into that particular release, but


definitely my take is that all companies will have
to

pay


higher taxes and an effective tax rate provisioning
for

the


industry, which has been hovering between 10-12%,
will


definitely go to around 16-18%. I am talking of the

average


for the industry. Company specifics will change
because

if


Infosys Technologies is paying around 17-18%
effective

tax


rate, other companies having the same revenue mix
and

the


same cost structure, have a much lower tax
provisioning.





Q: How are you looking at the salary cost going up in
the

companies because we had a lot of reports of more
people

joining, which is good news and also higher salaries on
the

whole?



A: For this quarter, am building an average rate of

inflation of 14%. But there is a wage rebalancing
happening

within the companies. If the additions are going to be
more

lateral then the wage inflations will play out. But if
the

addition is going to be at the entry level, then it is
not

going to make a severe dent. Similarly if you look at
the

onsite, salaries are going up between 3-4%, so that is
also

having a negative impact on the margin. But we have to
see

overall how wages are played out; we cannot look at one

standalone incident and say whether the inflation is
going

up or down. It has to be seen which constituent of the

total employee strength is going up and if the laterals
and

onsite goes up, then definitely that gives a negative

impact to the margins.



Q: What kind of rates do you see these companies
reporting

in the last quarter?



A: I think billing rates will be flat to modestly up,
for

Infosys. I am expecting the billing rates for the
company

to inch up around 0.5% on an overall basis. For TCS, I
do

not get that, but I think that it will be in line with

Infosys. Wipro too should experience a similar kind of
a

billing rate increase. Normally, the billing rates go
up

between 0.2-0.5% at this point of time.



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