Investment Guru Rakesh Jhunjunwala
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Being Jhunjhunwala: Bull of the bourses 2006-05-08 13:18 Rakesh Jhunjhunwala has made his fame and fortune by calling the markets right. How he has gone with a starting capital of Rs 5,000 to a net worth of a few thousand crore rupees is now the stuff of urban legend. One of the big bulls of the stock market, Jhunjhunwala is quick to point out that he is bullish first and foremost on India's growth story. For the chartered accountant who bet big with the Madhu Dandavate budget of 1989, Bombay Stock Exchange is where it all started. Excerpts from CNBC-TV18's exclusive interview with ace investor, trader and Chairman of Aptech Rakesh Jhunjhunwala: Q: It's 9 o'clock in the morning and we are outside Bombay Stock Exchange (BSE). Do you feel sentimental, when you pass by this road? This is where you started your career about 20 years ago. A: I can tell you Anuradha, I started here in 1985. Q: You have been saying hello to a lot of people here. A: I know a lot of people here. I had no office here; I used to come here with a bag. We used to get a ticket to enter the ring. I couldn't get the permission, so I used to stand outside the ring and see trading take place. And that's how I learnt. And I remember how I struggled and how I raised money. It's a moment of great happiness. There was a samosa-wala here, right there in the garden and we used to eat samosas. Lovely samosas he used to make. There was a bomb blast in the BSE and I was in the ring on the day of the blast. And two of the samosa- walas died here. We had 12 exits from the ring. There was such panic after the bomb-blast. And I was afraid of a stampede and kept shouting, "Don't worry, if we die, we'll die together. Don't try to save only yourself." And I saw a view in the gallery ring. Glass broke off and a person's head got cut in the ring. Very vivid and tragic memories of that day. But this street really reminds me of how I used to come here. Q: Everyone saw how Mumbai, how the stock exchange, was back to its feet so quickly after the blast. Now is there something about making money, about trading and business that is linked with this survival instinct? A: You know, trading always keeps you on your feet, it keeps you alert. That's one of the reasons why I like to trade. Q: What are these attitudes in life that you have got from your profession? A: First thing I've learnt is that markets work. They are the best mechanism to build societies. Q: You are philosophical about what you do, isn't it? A: I am passionate, I don't know whether I am philosophical or not. I am observant surely. Q: The India shining story, are you the face of that story, Rakesh Jhunjhunwala? A: Well, that's not for me to say. I entered the market at Index 150. Today, the index is at 12, 000. It's eighty times. And you know, I too could have gone abroad, I am a qualified chartered accountant. I could have practiced. It?s a fact that a person who started in 1985 in India in stock markets, could meet with success. Which speaks for the volume of opportunities available here. Q: Today, every move you make, every investment you make, every stock you put your money on is tracked, there are people who jump into the bandwagon, whether you like it or not. Does that pressurise you? A: See Ma'm, I've no clients except my wife because I don't want to be answerable to anybody. But with her, I've no choice. Q: Does it pressurise yanxiety? Like if I am a cricketer or a soccer player, and if I start performing well, there's always an expectation that every time I go into the batting field, I'll score a 100. Look at what's happening to Sachin Tendulkar? A: But Ma?m, whether anyone's watching or not, I'm always paranoid about all my actions. And the likelihood of my actions being successful, say five years ago, or ten years ago or today, is only better to the extent of what better experiences I've had. I am fearless. I am not concerned about what people think. I am only concerned about my deeds. Q: You are an icon, when it comes to someone who's successful at the stock market. Are there lot of Bunties and Bablis who want to become Rakesh Jhunjhunwala, you think? A: I do get mail from a lot of people, who say they want to invest in markets, and follow my career path. What did I do, they want to know. Q: Ordinary investors, retired people. Do you think there's an understanding that they want to be educated or they just want to make a quick buck? A: See, markets are about money, but markets are also about knowledge. Markets are also about egos; markets are also about the satisfaction of having been proved right. Especially, when that right is from an original thought and not from a guided source or following somebody. So I feel the anxiety, curiosity and the anxiousness to know about the market; it's quite general. But markets being markets, the ability is quite limited in my opinion.
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